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8/3/2006 10:16 PM
 

In order of preference:

Mail System. As you say more emails and better performance is a no brainer.

Skinning. Having a customized look is of importance for most projects.

Permissions. We are already handling this so it's definitely a second priority.


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8/3/2006 10:42 PM
 

I am glad I am seeing some responses. Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far. I wanted to touch on some of the responses and clarify a bit more my intentions for each.

Permissions: I can't even begin to describe how sick I am of seeing posts about this. I don't blame newcomers for asking about it, I just feel that since it has been repeatedly asked from day 1 I am tired of seeing it. The only way to stop this question is to correct what people find to be wrong. To touch on what Hal said on this, I do plan on using this for an admin role (forum admin) and for ways to have moderators by role. This is all part of the enhancement. There is no doubt this is handled today in terms of being functional though.

Mail System: I have no intention of writing anything that will be used as an email marketing system. This would start off as use for this module and hopefully expose the API to the core in the future. Understanding a bit about how things get into the core and the process around it, you don't want to get overly complex and build requirements for an entire framework solution around a single module. The way to approach this is to minimize requirements up front, then re-define if it reaches the core level. In the beginning, the email queue will be very simple. The main reason for this instead of just running in a background thread is because of the ASP.NET thread limitation of 25 by default per processor. In a place like DotNetNuke it is very possible you could exceed this limit.

The thought is to work the system as FIFO in the beginning with no send delay. A scheduled task would run and do a check every 5 minutes. If there are no email currently being sent, it would look to the queue table to find out if it needs to start sending. The queue table also holds who to send to, what to send. Again, very simple up front. This would not be a replacement for the Newsletter module either, so please keep this in mind.

Skinning: I am concerned nobody has released themes. The reason behind this must be that it is not worth doing so for one reason or another. The current system is hard to work with for designers and other developers and this seems to be the main thing my team desires to change. My personal view is torn because although I do want this, I don't feel it is the highest priority. I must admit though, I am tired of this not being professional enough looking to me.

 


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8/4/2006 10:09 AM
 
i vote for email subsystem first

i have no trouble with permissions (i solved my previous issues, but newcomers may have issues with it)

yeah i would like to see more skins but in my side emails more important at this stage

btw im having trouble localizating some words in forum module (its not the place for ask but pls answer me if u have a workaround)

i cannot localize , forums text in solpart navigation panel and page text used at paging for topics

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8/4/2006 8:45 PM
 

Ismet, the Solpart menu of the module is localized, the one used for navigation w/in hte forum itself can only be named the name of your forums, which are not localizable. The DNN solution is not for content text. Since each person is going to make their own forum and forum group names, i consider this content. Since this is different on every install for every language, we are stuck. Its like trying to localize the content of posts at this point.

The pager control gets its text from the core, not the forum module.  


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8/4/2006 11:13 PM
 

This could eventually make its way into the core where other modules would be able to use it (like a service).

Crispy. IMO the email system should, as you suggested, be a provider as part of the core. All modules should be able to hook into this email queuing system. Users should be able to request email alerts when new articles, comments on articles, new blogs, comments on blogs are made etc. The email goes right to the core...

Although skins do improve the look of the forums and site (obviously) the buy zero functionality. I actively use about 50 different forums a week which probably run on about 40 different forum software platforms. I rate the DNN forums as above average but there is still some margin to catch the others. This is by no means a slight at your skill level which I think is way up there with the Gods of programming but merely indicates that you have not had the time to hand to get the DNN forums to that level - YET! This is a roundabout way of saying that the looks (skins) should take a back seat and wait until the serious functionality is finished.

Just my 2 cents worth (if that) - I think that you're doing an amazing job and really appreciate all your time, effort and skill that you have and are putting in to this project.

Thanks a million!


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